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Well done
I can hear the birds chirping, the bee's buzzing, and the wind whistling through my salt and pepper hair. Music to my ears. As Lee said at Gettysburg "'I never saw troops behave more magnificently than Picket's division of Virginians did today in that grand charge upon the enemy” and I’d like to paraphrase that today, “I commend the opposing bloggers for their magnificently courage in knowing when to draw back”. No “sides” need to feel a retreat, as Lee wrote to Grant just prior to the end of that war “I do not think the emergency has arisen to call for the surrender of this army, but, as the restoration of peace should be the sole object of all”. We have again agreed to agree to disagree and have restored peace and that is the sole objective of this truce… The return to civil co-existence. The start of “whirled peas” for both sides and an open field void of bodies where dialog will once again be the call of the day. Well done.
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/taps.mid
(The reason we have the right to disagree)Beautifully said
Hijacking.
Difference
There is a big difference between "trying to start an argument" and defending your point of view and political beliefs. I think we are all (including you, Linda) engaged in the latter.
There is a difference
I'm fed up with it. And dont speak for me. Defending one's point of view, is not HIJACKING everyones posts.
Changing the topic of a post is HIJACKING
If someone starts a post, let's say on "Growing plants with hydroponics" and someone comes along and says "You can grow legalized marijuana with hydroponics too" and then goes on to talk about the benefits of hemp, if that's not "HIJACKING" what is? There is a big difference between covering a specific subject with your point of view and changing the subject to push your point of view on one continuing subject that is the only subject you like to discuss.
Taking control, commandeering, seizing, usurping, captureing, and confiscating are just another word for a "HIJACK"..... P.S. Speaking of rights, you don't have a right to do that do you? The blog is a "community" remember.
I understand
Bmoore,
I think I have been very conscientious about not hijacking a thread. If you find an instance where I have hijacked let me know. I cringe as much as you do when I see a hijacking in progress.
That's civil enough
ja... will do... and please do the same for me if I should falter.
STORIES 'R' US --New Potential Category
Genevieve,
Some of us are wondering if we could have a STORIES 'R' US category, to encourage others to tell their personal stories. (See Kittyfour's "Attached to My Car" blog)
This should be a friendly, non-debate type of category, where people share experiences.
Signed Katbird
What's Hijacking?
Hi everyone...
I'm somewhat new to this type of communication forum, and I'm not sure what hijacking means in this context? It sounds bad, and I would never want to do it. Could someone clarify this term for me?
Many thanks,
Kittyfour
K4- Hijacking is taking a
Hijacking
Kittyfour,
When someone posts a thread, a topic, a group of people with an agenda, will post numerous antagonistic threads under your topic. They bombard you with posts that are meant to invoke an emotional response, and produce conflict. It's done purposefully. For instance on the Hive, any of my topic's on illegal drug use.
The point to hijacking is to get the author of the post kicked off the site. This has happened to me several times since I began posting here.
Hijacking will also prevent the average person, who might have an opinion on the subject to be intimidated enough not to post their important opinions on the thread topic.
Hijacking is commonly used by biabolical groups, in my case those crafty little drug legalization advocates, to pressure the author into not posting on the subject any longer.
It wont work with me though! I have too much to say! I'm what the Editor's of the Modesto Bee call a VIP, a Very Opinionated Person.
Dont allow anyone to intimidate you here, post what you want, when you want and where you want. This is our county. If we dont post on what's important to us, the message will not get out there, if not us then who? One thing I find disheartening is the fact that many others feel the same way I do, but, they dont post. I'm hoping to change that. :D
Hijacking is changing the topic of a thread...
Thank you Jerry!
Debate is not.....
Inticing conflict, personal attacks, personal threats, hacking, and other schemes.
An opposing view is fine, but when it crosses the line into dangerous territory, and you know what I'm talking about, with unwanted and taunting emails, and hacked accounts, then it's no longer a debate, is it. With those lines crossed, it becomes personal.
One thing you might want to consider is the fact that I have never engaged in ANY off site tactic, nor is it my style to do so. What I need to say, I say here, there's no reason to talk with any of you outside of this forum, nor do I choose to do that. So, please dont lecture me on the debate issue, it's gone much farther then that as you are fully aware.
Have a great 4th of July! I certainly will.
Linda... sigh... no, I'm
Happy 4th of July Allen
Im busy preparing for tomorrow, I hope you have a great 4th of July.
Biography Title--People Confused.
Genevieve,
I am wondering if Biography (telling someone else's story) should really be Autobiography or "Our Stories"? Some people don't know what should be in that category. It confuses them that we (Kittyfour and I) are writing personal stories etc.
If you created that category in response to my request for a more focused story area (rather than just Miscellaneous), what I really had in mind was more like back in Caveman days. At night, people would relax around the fire just chewing the fat--instead of each other (unless, of course, they were cannibals).
I just thought that after a busy, stressful day of rabble-rousing, people
might like to drop in, put their feet up (like Bnic), and relax a bit while telling a few stories from their life (stories with their own stamp of personality).
Children always say: "Tell me a story." So, that was my vision.
SIGNED KATBIRD.
Three Cheers!
Yes, Katbird, this was what I had invisioned, too.
I used to have time to belong to a writers group, and we would share stories about ourselves, others in our lives, or fictional characters. I think that is what I had in mind. Stories... stories to share...
About the cannibals... ha! You crack me up! Good one!
Kittyfour
Thanks Katbird!
I do indeed like to tell stories. Yes, with my feet up. I can think of nothing I would rather do after a full day of "rabble rousing" than tell a story.
I believe you feel the same!
Bnic
Oakdale and Mable Ave Intersection
Excuse Me?
Sadly, there's not
There is a possible solution that comes with a software upgrade that might be in the offing for sometime this year. Meanwhile, The Hive doesn't have that capability.
Sorry!
Debra Legg
modbee.com interactive media editor
"Why does simple disagreement have to escalate every time" -- truthseekers
Although...
You can moderate your own posts to a certain extent, but then if the post was originally controversial you run the risk of other users accusing you of back-tracking and editing your words - which of course you can also do.
I would do as you pleased with whatever tools the Hive allows and provides for you. Thoughs that would condemn you for this - don't have anything better on you - so what the hey.
Robert Stanford
Airport Neighborhood Activist
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=%22robert+Stanford%22+modesto
FYI - Community Guidelines...
This clears some stuff up - but I still think it is ambiguous.
Robert Stanford
Airport Neighborhood Activist
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=%22robert+Stanford%22+modesto
So......
Why is there still a link to "Communtiy Guidelines" when The Bee Keepers refuse to enforce them. Either The Keepers should say they will not regulate The Hive at all or they will strictly enforce the guidelines. I think this is not to much t ask for Mr. Day.
"I care not of what others think I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do. That is character!" Teddy Roosevelt
Thats the weirdest thing today, You attack Robert by name, and
Thank You
I love the Hive. I now have another screen name.
When Can I expect a Response to My Complaint?
I sent a complaint on April 10th. When Can I expect a response?
ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO RESTRAIN THE TROLLS
Here we have rule No. 3 which is not to use the hive as a commercial for products and services.
Yet, heaton has tried sell ACN products, I believe that is soliciting and against hive rules.
Get this he was the last one complaing that hive rules were not being followed...: D theres a word for that also.
Huh? Talk about manipulation of people? Woo-Wee
I really like this one.
Debate is not.....
Submitted by Linda1 on Mon, 2006-07-03 13:35.
Enticing conflict, personal attacks, personal threats, hacking, and other schemes.
An opposing view is fine, but when it crosses the line into dangerous territory, and you know what I'm talking about, with unwanted and taunting emails, and hacked accounts, then it's no longer a debate, is it. With those lines crossed, it becomes personal.
One thing you might want to consider is the fact that I have never engaged in ANY off site tactic, nor is it my style to do so. What I need to say, I say here, there's no reason to talk with any of you outside of this forum, nor do I choose to do that. So, please don't lecture me on the debate issue, it's gone much farther then that as you are fully aware.
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Now that really is funnier than hell.
Activist1. How would you characterize the off-site interview you did with JHeaton and the topic was Stanford4Modesto?
One could go through the Guidelines and build a case
Against the trolls, yet it would never be prosecuted.
UNLESS IT WAS IN THE HIVE COURT.....................YES !
We now have legal reasons to have the hive court. based on these guidelines
Hearing those natural sounds
Hearing those natural sounds of nature is very relaxing. But not to the point of interacting with them closely.
bee removal mesa az
Deep Clean....
Dan- I wish you would go through and do a clean sweep of all of the excess baggage of screen names.
On Violations...
greenmile, you are violating The Hive Community Guidelines. You have posted the first and last names of these women and it does violate their privacy.
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