Is Radical Islam To Blame?

And he was not a radical muslem. I see no connection with a terrorist cell.

This was about racist's calling him a raghead, but of course you wanted this to be about muslem terrorists.

12 people dead, 31 wounded. Was he an Islamic convert? Did it have anything to do with why he shot those soldiers? Was he upset that he was being deployed to Afghanistan and leaving soon?

He was a combat Psychiatrist for heaven's sake! His job was to teach soldiers how to cope! 

This news is quite upsetting.

How am I, as the mother of a recently enlisted Army soldier, suppose to comprehend this cowardly act. It's not enough that we have to worry whether our children will make it home safely, now we have to worry about possible  extremsits on our own soil?  My son leaves in January, and I'm not going to sugar coat this... this is what nightmares are made of.

I want to know exactly what happened, and why!

This just in:

..."The Associated Press, quoting federal law enforcement officials, said Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. The officials said they were still trying to confirm that he was the author.

One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog item that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

Medical records on file in Virginia, where Hasan was born and was registered to practice, and Maryland, where he received his medical degree at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, revealed no disciplinary actions or formal complaints.

Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps, said the gunman used two handguns."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ 

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt

if you don't like the truth, I'm sure you'll make up your own.

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http://cstsonline.org/members/cstsmember-69_Hasan

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt

don't you.

Next the slimeslider will have an expose`

FOX news has already mentioned that, what was the point you were trying to make anyway.?

He didn't want to deploy, who knows.  At this point it is all speculation.  Maybe he had something to fear if he was deployed. 

went AWOL his psychiatry career was tanking anyway.

that his name was found on radical Internet sites - in fact, the feds noticed him six months ago. 

I know Linda's the source on this, but here's the AP's own version of what they reported tonight about the Fort Hood shooter:

this time of war with radical Islam, it is very possible that there are spies, sleeper cells at work. Of course, in the coming days we will learn more. But watch how the media, the president, and the communist wing of the democratic party will support Nidal Malik Hasan.....we already see it here at The Hive. We had Nazis supporters in America during WWII. And we have radical Islam supporters now.

I have talked to a few folks tonight that said this guy had some Islamic links on his facebook page that now has been deleted. My main concern that the "usual fools" will continue to be caught up in their PC world that certain questions will not be asked. Is he a life long Muslim? Does he have radical ties? Did he act alone? What are his motives? Are Muslims with radical ties being monitored? There will be an incident that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back and a large majority of Americans will either revolt through votes, which I hope is the case, or through physical riots, to take our country back from the communist, and liberal left that is seeking to restructure the government, and redistribute wealth in order to gain complete power. Barry Hussein Obama and his clan must be weepy eyed with joy right now!

"Hasan, whose family said he was born in suburban Washington, is single with no children. He graduated from Virginia Tech, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001 and was at Walter Reed for six years for his internship, residency and a fellowship.

"We are shocked and saddened by the terrible events at Fort Hood today," his cousin, Nadar Hasan, said in a statement issued on behalf of their family. "We send the families of the victims our most heartfelt sympathies." "

I'm sorry I had to log out really fast for a minute so I did not get to finish my post.

The Major is a lifelong Muslim. He apparently wanted the US to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and got into frequent arguments with those who disagreed with him. He had also received a poor performance review from Walter Reed Hospital before being transfered to Fort Hood.

I do think this needs to be thoroughly investigated. This man opened fire on unarmed soldiers. His conduct is reprehensible. If it was motivated by political or religious beliefs then his behavior could be an indication of a deeper problem.

While I won't leap to any conclusions yet, I do think we as a nation would be foolish to ignore the possible implications of this man's ties to a religion that believes 'the means justifies the end'.

Obama and his clan of African  illegals.

"Obama and his clan of illegals" - I am not even sure what that means, so I cannot comment on it.

We cannot let our fear of what MIGHT happen keep us from a proper investigation of what DID happen.

My prayers are with the victims and their families...and I keep the family of the Major in my prayers as well.

or just drop the whole thing?

illegally and stays at their house. There are supposed to be more Africans he brought over from his last trip.

in some way to Obama and his plan to take America?

Appreciate your input. You seem to be very knowledgeable and level headed.

why so angry? Truth hurts maybe?

OBS.....you sound a lot like a long time sock puppet poster so I will leave you to your own conclusions.

LSK, there have been quite a few incidents the last few years involving home grown Muslim terrorist. They have been swept under the rug for the most part by many in the media, leftist/communist/Nazi sympo democrats, and some spineless repubs. I hope all servicemen and women who are Muslim are throughly checked. I am sure there are many moderate Muslims in the service that are good, patriotic Americans, but there are also the radical muslims there too. Again, just watch the cry of racism, and support of this Hasan scum from the left, and even those who claim to be conservative. You are already seeing it here on The Hive.

You may find this site very informative..

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

"They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting"

Nidal Malik Hasan

Fort Hood Jihad Update: "Local soldier: Fort Hood shooting 'a bloody mess,'" by T.J. Aulds for The Galveston Daily News, November 5 (thanks to Constantine):

 

"They were telling him that one guy was shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting," Tom Hunt said. "He couldn't say much more than that."

There is also this from Pamela:

"Malik Nadal Hasan, the jihadi that led the attack on Fort Hood, was quoted as saying "Muslims have the right to rise up against the US military" "The Malik Nadal Hasan Muslims have a right to stand up against the aggressors" "maybe we should have more of these where people strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square" - this according to Col Terry Lee who worked with Muslim convert.

The mainstream media, of course, is still searching for a motive.

Just for the record - Our President's mother is dead; if she is in the US illegally then that is quite a nifty trick.

JH - thank you for the link. This entire episode, like the gun battle in Detroit a few weeks ago, causes me great concern.

My nephew will be inducted into the Army in January. I have two cousins serving right now - one Army and one Marine. I would like to think that they are safe on a stateside military base.

Since when did you have the truth? You have your idea of what happened but that does not make it the truth.

we all know you are waiting for Glen Beck or Mike Savage to give you your final answer.

Your not fooling me.Tell you what I will watch Glen Beck tommorow and compare with your version..and see which one makes more sense.

Unfortunately you are both extreme so it may come real close.

FAKE CONSERVATIVES.

defending this schmuck Abs/JH. Not that I've looked real hard but no one has pointed me to anyone defending him, altho some allude to him having supporters "on the left". Where?

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Let us not tire of preaching love; it is the force that will overcome the world. - Archbishop Oscar Romero (1917-1980) Martyr

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I want to remind people that we have a pretty darn good system of justice in this country (most of the time) as well as highly trained men and women who are capable of investigating this tragedy. We need to get out of their way, let them do their jobs and NOT jump to conclusions.

And let me tell you, as a champion, gold medal conclusion jumper from waaaaayyyyy back, having to restrain myself from hysteria is an act of penance. But I REFUSE to let panic define me.

Unless, of course, panic is appropriate to whatever situation I am in..at which point it will be Katy, bar the door....

You two are special prayer people.

Thank You and let's now take this one upstairs now.

but Yesterday you wanted to implement Sharia law

Fort Hood Police Officer Kimberly Munley Directly Engaged Alleged Shooter Army. Major Nidal Malik Hasan

FORT HOOD, Texas (CBS) ―

At least 13 were killed, all but one of them service members. The alleged shooter, Army. Major Nidal Malik Hasan, was confronted by a civilian police officer. (Read more about Hasan)

Lt. Gen. Bob Cone, the top commander at Fort Hood, said Friday that Fort Hood police Sgt. Kimberly Munley and her partner responded within three minutes of reported gunfire Thursday afternoon. Cone said Munley shot Hasan four times despite being shot herself.

Officials said Munley was in stable condition.

Cone said, "It was an amazing and an aggressive performance by this police officer."

Cone also said he was inspired by a woman who helped carry a wounded victim and used her blouse as a tourniquet, then later realized she'd been shot in the hip.

Hasan, is hospitalized on a ventilator.

• Video: Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Was Psychiatrist
• Video: Hasan Reportedly Shouted 'Allahu Akbar'
• Video: Who Is The Alleged Fort Hood Shooter?
• WaPo: Aunt Says Hasan Was Harassed About Muslim Faith

Officials have not released the names of those injured or killed in the attack.

Incomplete List Of Victims In Fort Hood Rampage:

• A soldier from Bolingbrook, Illinois is one of the 13 people killed in the shooting rampage. Family members were distraught as they confirmed that Pfc. Michael Pearson, 21, was killed in the attack. - CBS station WBBM-TV

• Jamie and Scotty Casteel revealed her son-in-law Matthew Cooke was among the injured. "He's been shot in the abdomen and that's all we know," Jamie Casteel told The Associated Press. She said Cook, from New York state, had been home from Iraq for about a year.

• The family of a Random Lake, Wisconsin soldier injured in the Fort Hood shooting says Amber Bahr was shot in the back and is undergoing tests. Lisa Pfund says she was relieved when the 19-year-old Bahr finally called Thursday evening. Bahr told her she went running when shots rang out, and didn't realize she'd been hit until she went to an emergency room. - CBS affiliate WKBT-TV

• Ashley Saucedo told WOOD-TV in Michigan that her husband, Ray Saucedo, was shot in the arm, but she couldn't discuss specifics. Saucedo said she and the couple's two children weren't permitted to leave their home at Fort Hood during the shootings.

• One of the 30 people injured in the Fort Hood shootings currently lives in the Twin Cities, according to an article in the Star Tribune. The paper reported that Spc. Keara Bono was shot twice. One bullet hit the Missouri native in her back and the other grazed her head. - CBS station WCCO-TV.

• A Richmond, North Carolina native is among the wounded. Staff Sgt. Alonzo (Mac) Lunsford had been stationed at the Texas base for about a year. Lunsford, who stands near 7-feet-tall, is reportedly in his early 40s. He was shot three or four times and two of the bullets have been removed, according to Mayor Gene McLaurin. - Richmond County Daily Journal

• George Stratton III,18, called his father a short time after the shootings. George Stratton Jr., from his Post Falls, Idaho home said his son called him from an ambulance on the way to the hospital. He says his son is okay, and was only a few feet away when the shooting started. - KVTB.com

• Lafayette, Indiana native Nathan Hewitt is one of the wounded soldiers. CBS affiliate WLFI-TV spoke with Hewitt by phone from his hospital bed. He said he is doing well and is trying to keep everyone's spirits up. Hewitt's uncle said his 27-year-old nephew is recovering from a shot wound in the calf and a hip injury. He said Hewitt was at the Fort Hood medical facility when shots were fired.

• An Iowa soldier who arrived at Fort Hood in Texas for additional training before being deployed overseas was among the soldiers wounded in the rampage, her father revealed Friday. Staff Sgt. Joy Clark, 27, of Des Moines, was shot in the left arm, according to her father Jerry Nelson. - CBS affiliate KIMT

http://kdka.com/national/kimberly.munley.shooting.2.1296278.html

 Denial ain't just a river in Egypt

defending him. Defending him would be saying he was justified. Saying there is no proof of radicalism is not a defensive statement. There is a difference Abs.

Like LSK said... let's avoid jumping to conclusions. Except ID... he's a jumper from wayback.

An interesting point made by a former Army Colonel I saw this a.m.... no one harasses a major. Certainly not anyone enlisted, and if an officer it would b majors and above (which leaves only colonels and generals).

I think too many just like to argue and be right. A silly investment to my way of thinking...

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my understanding is that he got his commission after graduating from the Army's med school. He's a newbie...

But Majors don't get harassed... 2nd Lieutenants are fair game. A friend of mine and I loved saluting the fresh new 2nd Looies w/ our left hand. Still makes me smile to think about that.

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People had that intuition about Obama from the start.

I was not defending this mans actions, I was merely pointing out that he was not connected to a terrorist cell, nor was he a Christian he was a muslem convert.

As far as me being a holy man, I am not. A holy man would be one who is above all others spiritually, which there are none on this earth presently. I am sure meant that like sarcasm.

Since you think of me as being a holy man I must warn you of those who say they are holy are liars. The Christ warned all to beware of those who cry lord, lord there are prophets, when in fact the prophets are no longer.

Thats not so say there are no more seer's

A major in the regular Army is about 10 years, this is a med school Major big difference if that is any help.

And Wayne you are a man who intriques me that in 2009 two people of divergent facts agree on so much, its really a cool deal considearing all we have ben taught.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.

for the investigation to reveal facts instead of talking hubris.

No need get alarmed over nothing at this point.

Somebody was probably threatend with "Diversity" training classes if they said anything! That, or fear of political correctness scam!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ft_hood_probers_ponder_missed_signs_Ni1oXjARVgdWay1dk6qfFK/0

Disturbing new details surfaced yesterday about the deranged Fort Hood gunman and his methodical mass murder plot, which survivors say began with him screaming "Allahu akbar," before he fired more than 100 rounds at his fellow soldiers.

The mystery of how Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, failed to draw concern from military brass before the attack -- despite trying to leave the Army for months, denouncing the war on terror and saying he was "a Muslim first and an American second" -- deepened as families prepared to bury his 13 victims.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ft_hood_probers_ponder_missed_signs_Ni1oXjARVgdWay1dk6qfFK/0#ixzz0WK0NGmVt

If you were a law abiding Muslim living in America. YOU would be plenty worried about how the act of perhaps a coward, meantally ill person hiding behind his faith may impact not only you but your children's  well-being.

This atrocity is the act of a disturbed individual, not an act committed by entire the Muslim faith upon Americans.

I do not have to watch any news to appreciate the slant anyone of them make. And I will not be influenced by FOX, CNN, CNBC or for that matter HLN. 

I just can be rest assured that there is more to this story that only time will tell.

This person may just be a sicko who ozzed through the cracks or it may expose a much deeper issue that our military has with weeding out people who may develop issues that make them no longer mentally able and ready to serve.

This is Heatons new source for this situation.

The Religion of peace (sometimes abbreviated as ROP or RoP) is a political neologism used as a description of Islam. After the September 11, 2001 attacks, some politicians described Islam as a "religion of peace" in an effort to differentiate between Islamic terrorists and non-violent Muslims.[1]

Here is his kicker on this: Subsequently, some critics of Islam have adopted the phrase, using the term "Religion of Peace" in a sarcastic manner as a pejorative synonym for Islam.

Neologism is simply a made up word/label to suit one's need at the time.

" F-You buddy and F your news channel!!! "

Perhaps you need a time out.

A Marine? When he come home in his blues you won't know him and the concerns today will bring you joy tomorrow as some sob DI mad him tow the time honored training regimen that onlyb a Marine will ever know

You freind on Christ

Joe

It's one of the highest forms of individual abuse toward others one can use.

Goes side by side with telling others they are F ing stupid.