Few Anglicans to take pope's offer

If a priest wished to be married to a woman then he should be, the actual scriptures say, a bishop should be married.

Unless after many years of marriage his wife passes on then it would be up to him to re-marry but I doubt one would.

How can a bishop manage the church if he can not rule his own house speaking of the bishops personal children.

I don't blame them for not joining in, it was a mess when they left, with all the beheadings and tortures.

It seems like all Religious organizations have their own special problems. I think it always has a lot to do with money. "Money is the root of much evil". I believe that statement.

The deal on marriage, I have never understood either. Seems like it has caused a lot of problems for others, in the long run.

spoke to the Anglicans in THIS area. There was a HUGE influx of Anglicans in England about 8 years ago - 400 people came Home to The church and of the 400 250 were Anglican priests.

Oh, and HamHock? The Church did not 'kick these people out'. Now, for you to find out what really happened, you would have to look at papers and books other than the Holy Bible, which I know you do not want to do. I understand that, HamHock. It is very difficult to do research.
There are rites within the Church that allow for married priests.

SOME of the Apostles were married. Many were not.

St John the Baptist was not married.

Jesus was not.

Those priests who decide to take vows of celibacy do so because they are trying to be like Christ. They are 'married' to the Bride of Christ. Christ, in Scripture, is portrayed as the Bridegroom...the Church as His Bride.

I expect that many Anglicans in the Southern Cone will take advantage of the offer. We, in Modesto, have welcomed a little over 100 into Full Communion since the troubles began in the Anglican Dioceses.

I tried to be very careful and succinct here, Hamhock. I know how new you are but I also know how you do not like scholarly papers on subjects. While I wrote a thesis on this years ago and could post it for you to read, so that you can understand the DISCIPLINE of celibacy as opposed to a DOCTRINE, I won't do it because I know how much it upsets you. Because you are so very new here on The Hive, I don't want you to feel unwelcome.

I doubt you have all the papers and such, if you did you would have written a blog, also as to what caused the split in the first place.

I know you won't because it will only expose the under belly of the beast..... FORCED WORSHIP !

When one's credibility is down the tubes so to speak, others can trust but must verify.

If it cannot be proven (posted) it is assumed it does not exist, nor ever did.

As far as reading other papers, no thanks. My Bible is good enough for me and is the word of God.

Most people believe that the German and other beer purity laws, like the Reinheitsgebot, were created to keep the beer pure, when in fact they were created by those "fun-hating" Protestants to keep away the heavily psychoactive beer made by the "party till you drop" Catholic Church.

just as a rabbi is. If you are going to counsel married couples you need to know first hand exactly what married life is like. A priest telling someone how to manage their marriage is like a little league coach who has never played a game in his life. As for counseling couples on sexual matters, maybe, as long as it concerns molesting choir boys.

I am no longer Christian at all. I was Eastern Orthodox however, for several years. Eastern Orthodox priests (who are not monks) are almost all married, and in some Orthodox Churches have to be married to be a priest. This Catholic idea that a priest can more fully commit themselves to God and their flock if they are unmarried is patently absurd on the face of it.

It is a setup for failure for the men who become priests...especially in an uber-sexualized society such as ours where even shampoo is marketed as an orgasm procuding wonder elixer for women. Ancient Christians who were celibate were almost always monks who were sheltered away from the world around them. They are better able to fight their battles without being exposed to the world around them. Theirs is a very different lifestyle.

Unfortunately, since the late middle ages, and ESPECIALLY since Vatican II, the Catholic Church has almost virtually abandoned any kind of traditional monasticism. So now, even priests in religious orders are little different from parish priests in their exposure to the world around them. So it is no wonder that the Catholic preisthood is a den of depravity.

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First I am accused of 'cut and paste' when I do offer proof. then I am accused of not really being a Christian when I reference something OTHER than the Holy Scriptures. Then HamHock, who is new on The Hive and obviously does not know me and has absolutely NO personal axe to grind and is not, in any way shape or form, a liar who is not living a life of rigorous honesty, accuses me of not having any credibility because I did NOT post references or write a new blog.

Interesting take on Christianity from 'Bible Only' Christians...I think you have all demonstrated quite well where the Belly of the Beast exists.

thank you for confirming me in my Faith.

God bless you all.

a Beast LSK.

I think apology's are in order from you.

How can they both say, that the Baptists have sprung from the CATHOLICS when the BAPTISTS were with Jesus before he was Baptized.  The Baptists were the first Church, and are the only true Church.

Catholics did not come about until the reign of JUSTINIAN THE GREAT. before that it was called the church of the romans.

each of them. That was a pretty aggressive, blatent, purposeful and wild, attack.

Less that what one would call dignified and graceful.

implying that you and I were infadels when they both stated we did not understand.......What next?

COL thought she had been raptured, then again a lot of songs about drug usage talks about being raptured, like BLONDIE the singer and her video, one of my favorites. " raptured" ........nice!

...before there were even Christians? Whatever the 'brand' of Christian, all brands would agree that Christ had to die in order for human beings to be united to God. I mean, Protestants will talk about 'pleading the blood', the Orthodox speak of deification, the Catholics talk about...whatever it is they talk about. Christ had to die for all of them to have any significance. So just because some locust eating Jewish ascetic from the Essene sect of Judaism was dipping guys in a river, and calling it baptism, that seems like a pretty loopy stretch to say that he was the first Baptist...as in the Baptist denomination.

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That was nicest and most cogent comment made on celibacy, something i could not at 22 make a determination yet I see it  from 60 yeras of orthodox Catholicism your views are often harsh, in this sir, thank you.

From beer to celibacy.

In my theology there are three categories of sexuality. Homosexual, Heterosexual and another sexual which is one where the person is not driven by sex.

That may seem odd to those whom do not understand spirituality but cloistered men and women fit in the latter.

The Beer commenst and the hallucienogenic properties held by the Pope, funny but I think a bit biased.