Joe Cataline what were you thinking? Here are a few of the girls (how old, Joe?) in the pole incident.

You must have much better eyesight than I.  I see no pole...I see car lights, meaning the picture was taken outside.  Is is illegal to pose with people outside? And, they certainly look fully clothed to me!  HAHA

Oh and by the way, hope you got permission to post this picture for your own use.

but your right, WHERE is this Pole?  All I see is three women and Joe standing together to take a picture. 

The girls are all legal Sarah, sorry to burst your bubble.

Yes, young ladies to like to take pictures.  Is that a crime now?

I do hope you have permission to use that picture...I am guessing you don't.

Dan, please comment.  Are individuals allowed to post pictures and insinuate that the girls are under age?  They are not underage. 

Sarah check your facts before you insinuate lies.

I have seen these photos thanks to a source of mine. I believe I have access to them and will post them when I have time. I do not know the ages of the people pictured, but I believe there are also photos that might be for sell..pictures of women who are scantily dressed and are in very suggestive poses. looks like there maybe another "character" issue for another Modesto City council wannabe. These photos and others were on  line but have disappeared recently. Hmmm?

Jheaton - provided they aren't pornographic, and I doubt they are, I think it would settle this ongoing dispute once and for all. Thanks.

Would think a Peanuts cartoon is pornographic.

Allow jheaton to use the Mexico Flu? It would be different if he was a new hiver, but he has been on long enough to know the rules.

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Why would she do it? Is she demented?

and she complains about socks.

She again is acting like she did before the rules were enforced, now anyone that gives an opinion may be subjected to punshment.

Remember her blog against Ms. Sarmas. she gained 135 comments because an arguement ensued because she posted what could be considered porn.

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What did Ted say?

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is a sock puppet. And since only two people are posting the same pictures it's pretty obvious Activist1 and Sarahj1234567 are one and the same.

I just joined the other day and read the Hive rules. They are clear that no one can post pictures like that unless they can show proof the owners of the photos approve.

The photos violated the Hive rules.

to complain about these pictures?

dday@modbee.com

Thanks.

and propriety are lost values I'm afraid.

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must be very proud of themselves right now.  They even put a link to this from modbee.com. I understand they are supporting Kristin Olsen for the council. And the author of this what ever it is doesn't even live in Modesto.

The writer of this blog posted the information, not the Modesto Bee.

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A! posted the poll pictures as she did of Sheriff's Deputy. She seems to have a fixation with the POLE. Please, someone save her,

No offense to anyone here, but I've got 4 words as it relates to the what I consider to be pretty innocent photos...

WHO - GIVES - A - S***. 

Let's talk about the issues folks, and not get caught up in what may or may not call into question a Candidate's character.  Joe's in his mid-twenties (25, right?), owns his own business, volunteers his time to help youth, and is running for City Council.  That is a whole hell of a lot more than most 25 year-olds can say.  The guy deserves some props.

And, for the record, I am an Olsen supporter. 

The thing is... take me for instance... I'm a straight shooter, I don't pretend to be one way and then do something totally opposite.  I couldn't do that if I wanted to. It's just not who I am. 

This campaign has been brutal in that, honest straight forward candidates are getting personally attacked from people who are willing to say one thing and do another. I think credibility is very important.  A person's character is important.

On September 15, 2009, the Modesto Bee printed a Q&A with Joe Cataline. The Bee asked Joe why he was running for City Council...

Joe said "I am running because I want to make Modesto a better, safer community... Our city needs a change in leadership, not for change sake, but for the sake of the people of our community."

That sounds good, but how is attending stripper parties, and selling risque photo's good for the community? 

The Bee went on to ask Joe  "What set's you apart from other candidates?"

Joe replied... "I will continue to work to unite the people of this city and to advocate for their priorities and values."

This is the kind of answer that should scare the heck out of voters. Why? Because we already know he was selling risque photo's from his ichabadcrane website, while coaching youth football. While attending stripper parties.

So, I ask you, what "values" is he talking about? Not mine. So then who's values does he want to represent, the best llittle whorehouse in Texas?

Why say this non sense to begin with?  That he wants to uphold the "values" of an entire community. There's nothing  I despise more then a candidate who say's whatever they think voters want to hear. Hey, I have a suggestion, why not the truth for once.

Any guy that teachs youth football by day, and attends stripper parties and sells risque photo's by night is not someone I want anything to do with. Why is this guy teaching youth football? It doesn't fit with any of his other behavior. Is it a decoy?  Something to make it appear as if he's an upstanding citizen.  I don't like dirty, underhanded, sneaky tactics. No one wants to have to deal with people like that. Can you blame them?

So when you say you want to talk about the issues mtber, these are the issues.

And yes, I aggree with you, for Joe Muratore to accomplish was he has at an early age, is a testament to his character. It's impressive,  and I think voters will be proud to have him sitting on the council.

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A1.  First off from what I know you are not even able to vote in Modesto because you DON'T LIVE HERE.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with the photos that Joe took.  He is a PROFESSIONAL  photographer.  I don't understand the great hype here.  Do you think that a Sears or Penney's catalog is porn.  I HOPE NOT!!!!!  It is amazing to me how one could twist something so innocent and make it a campaign hit piece.  Maybe should ask Kristen about why she ok'd Pelandale landscape and who was the contract given to and and and.  No we attack a vibrant over 21 who has his photo taken with some pretty women.  I would say he was a healty male.  Not so bad in the days gone by but maybe you would have preferred it to be well I won't even go there.  Joe Cataline is a man of integrity who stands up for what he believes in.  He has done wonders with the youth of our area and SaraJ and Activist 1 have been out classed by this young man

Activist1 -

Let me preface this by a term I like to use....."trust everyone, trust noone." 

I completely agree with your opinion that honest, quality Candidates are getting personally and professionally (I think there is a difference) attacked in this Election.  There's no doubt about it.  I also agree with you in the sense that the character and integrity of these Candidates CERTAINLY matter, especially if we, as residents of Modesto, are going to entrust them with the handling of the City's budget and issues that effect our quality of life.

That being said, with respect to the pictures posted here, the ONLY pictures with Joe Cataline included is the 1st one and the last one.  And, quite frankly, I personally see absolutely nothing wrong with those pictures.  Nothing that would call into quesiton Joe's integrity or lack of values.  As for the other pictures with the women around the pole, etc., I see no proof posted here that Joe took those pictures, or even has anything to do with those pictures.  For all I know, those pictures could have come from anyone or anywhere.  On the last one, yeah ok, so there's a poster of a half-nude woman in the background.  But for me, that's stretching it if you consider that alone to be suspicious of his character, or values.

For me personally, it just goes back to the term I like to use....
trust everyone, trust noone." 

See my point? 

And once again, for the record, I am an Olsen supporter, and I think it is pretty shameful some on here prefer to personally attack her and make unsubstantial claims.  But it's a free country, and that's the game they choose to play. 

ae, Truthseekers, Activisttoo, Sagitarious1130, Malcolmkyle, Ae and Curiousobserver on this one.  

I'm new here but it appears Sarahj1234567 and this Activist1 person are the same person first off.

And what is wrong with Mr. Cataline and girls. Nothing at all. It's totally innocent and perfectly moral any way one wants to look at it.

To say Mr. Cataline shouldn't even be coaching youth football because of the girls is just,.....well  insane and slanderous for sure.

Like I said I'm pretty new here. I was wondering if this Activist1 and JHeaton persons were offended because of their religion or something.

How many 25-year-olds out there can attest to what Joe Cataline has accomplished thus far: working for a legislator (NOT as a volunteer Modesto Bee, wake up), starting and owning a business, volunteering, coaching and the like. I don't know too many other 25-year-olds in this area who are anywhere near running a legitimate candidacy, let alone putting their name and credentials out there. 

If this is the way old-timers like Linda treat political newcomers, no wonder younger people are turned off to politics. 

Joe, keep your head up and keep persevering. 

when did you become a straight shooter?

what the problem is, a1 is jealous of pretty and sxy women. Look at the evidence..........Ms. Sarmas on the pole now these young ladies.

I dont have the link, but it will show a1, hollering at the top of her lungs........yelling SIN! or something like that.

I think we got a clip of Linda's own rendition of stripping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZnuJppyo4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an7neQrpc94&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZnuJppyo4E

Thats the one I was refering to.

It wasn't sin it was scam.

I'm just catching up on all this, sad that this is happening about pictures again.  Go Home Act1 Your a Scam!!!!

It is a shame that someone who seems to never go against the big money in Modesto, always slams anyone who might get in the way of their pets.  Joe Cataline appears to be a very talented young man.  It is shameful for anyone to suggest that because he took some photos of consenting adults as part of his professional job that you would try to say that he is somehow un fit to work with our youth football program.  I once had a child in the football program at Calvary where Joe coached.  He was great with the boys and was also very mature and level headed for his age.  That was years ago and now I have heard from some how he has worked with teams to help them grow and allow more youth to get involved.  Activist 1 instead of your payments from big money PMZ maybe you should support our youth programs so that more kids can get involved.  Wow what a novelty more kids with role models that really care about them and who knows maybe we won't have a new generation of gang members.  Yes I do believe that youth programs will help keep our youth off the streets.  To much time left alone will only lead to trouble. BUT WHY NOT BASH A YOUNG MAN WHO IS DOING MORE FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAN YOUR BASHING WILL EVER BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH            Keep going Joe you are 1 of a kind !!!!!!

Mr. Cataline doesn't deserve this bashing from Sarahj1234567 and that Activist1 guy. I haven't been blogging very long here, but this is ridiculous. I'm surprised the ModBee allows things like Sarahj1234567 and the Activist have said. It's so slanderous.

Mr. Cataline is a fine young man.

WOW!! What is the Bee's motive here?  Since when does the Bee post a link to the hive.  I clicked on what I thought was going to be an article and it brought me here.  Here are my thoughts, being a woman, mother of three and having one that is in football this year. 

First. as a woman I see this as nothing more than a smear campaign since the Bee has already endorsed Olsen. Joe is an adult. Joe is a photographer.  Many a struggling, starting photographers have had to take pictures of people other than at weddings to survive.  These women are not naked. Just because they are posing provocative doesn't mean anything.  Joe isn't posing provocative, the woman are.  Big deal Jardine, get over it. The pictures of the women are consenting adults regardless of content and the content is not a reflection on Joe's character. It is a reflection on the women posing.  He isn't telling them to do it.

Second. as a mother of three it is the women in the supposed sexy pictures that need the lashing, not Joe.  It is the women's actions not Joe's that should be found offensive. If my daughter did this I would be upset with her, unless the photographer physically forced her to take the pictures, then it would be on the photographer. I seriously doubt Joe forced tese woman to do anything.  Obviously he was at a function and took pictures big deal. I don't think Joe would be a threat to children based on his photography.  These are pictures of adults period.  These pictures could appear any where and that's that.

Finally, having one son in football, I can understand what kind of role model I want for my child.  First and foremost it is about how they treat my son on the field. I want my son to learn football.  I want him to respect himself, coaches and team mates. Just because Joe is a photographer does not mean that he is a deviant. What I look for in a coach is respect for all of the children.  I want them to teach my child, it is not their job to raise my child. Therefore, what does his being a photographer have anything to do with how he handles his team? He isn't a cheerleading coach he is a football coach.  It is those that hide, which are the ones you need to watch out for. Some hide behind their husband's dirty work. What about that story JEFF?????

Why bash Jardine for reporting it?  A lot of people feel that the pictures are not a big issue (including me).  Why make it into something it isn't?  I felt the point that Jardine was making is that he felt the candidate was being deceptive.  That is where the problem lies for me.  If Cataline acknowledges that he did what many photographers do- try to get their work some recognition, this whole issue would not have blown up.

No candidate should be persecuted over practicing their lawful profession- not photographers and not real estate agents/developers.  At the Hive, people are treated fairly based on facts alone. 

was the heading lead you to believe that Jeff was going to talk about WHAT social networking sites canidates use. 

I would of liked if Jeff actually reported who was on what....meaning these people have a myspace, these people have a twitter....etc.  Jeff could of been thorough and provided link to ALL social sites, including actual canidates sites. 

Did he tell everyone and provide links to everyone who is on twitter?

NO.  Kristin Olsen, Al Nava, Robert Stanford and Joe Muratore are all on Twitter, yet he didn't provide link.

Jeff implies the above myspace pictures are on Joe Cataline myspace. They aren't.  They are leeched from, probably the girl aboves site.  

BE SMART.  BE SAFE.

Don't buy the HATE!

Joe did not take the above pictures.

but I can see the whole thing is based on deception. The blog maker is SarahH1234567 whom was on the Hive for an hour or so and this is the first blog SarahH makes?

Come on people, that is the start of the lie. And then when I read the comments, I can easily see that Activist1 guy or gal,  is SarahH1234567, but for some reason did not want to post under the Activist1 name.

And then the biggest of all the deceit is the attempt to act like Mr. Cataline took the pictures himself, even though they were stolen without permission from the three lady's, off some other site.

I think the Bee providing a link to the Hive is in very poor taste too wilderj.

Here's a link to the entire "video shoot". I guess people can judge for themselves.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=16554990&albumId=2494605&page=3

There's more here:

http://stancoinsider.com/stancoinsider_144.htm

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whomever you are. I am pretty new here, like I said and I don't know to many people. I was just being fair.

I am not sure, like I said I'm new here, but I don't think to many people care about this stuff you posted. I think in all fairness, you should have used your own name instead of Sarah.

I don't know who dunce and Bikewick is.

HamHock.

For someone who actually buys it.

Sock Puppet ALERT!

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And it is clear the BEE TARGETED CATALINE.

Cataline even explained those pictures, which he said the women's husbands hired him to take the pictures.

All are over 18, and are married.

The Bee is getting really pathetic by turning something normal into a scandal.

Think about this for a moment, will you at least try to comprehend the information in front of you, for a change.

If Cataline was taking those pictures ONLY for these girls husbands as he or someone stated... then WHY was he selling them through his ichabadcrane deviant website? What do you suppose their husbands would say about that?  

He was selling them, now all the pictures have been removed!  All comments on that site are locked down tight!

Why would he remove innocent pictures from his website? Unless they are NOT pictures that he wants made public.

Take a look for yourself.

http://ichabadkrane.deviantart.com/gallery/

There's NO pictures at all. Do you see the words..."NO DEVIANTS"?

The 13 comments, are "HIDDEN BY OWNER". Do you see that?

But, if this site is so innocent, why would the owner remove all the pictures and lock the site down? 

Come on wayne, even you can put two and two together, right?

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